{"id":10079,"date":"2025-10-10T17:52:44","date_gmt":"2025-10-10T17:52:44","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/eplvip.com\/index.php\/2025\/10\/10\/comparing-ruben-amorim-and-mikel-arteta-in-manchester-uniteds-nightmare-is-completely-ridiculous\/"},"modified":"2025-10-10T17:52:44","modified_gmt":"2025-10-10T17:52:44","slug":"comparing-ruben-amorim-and-mikel-arteta-in-manchester-uniteds-nightmare-is-completely-ridiculous","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/eplvip.com\/index.php\/2025\/10\/10\/comparing-ruben-amorim-and-mikel-arteta-in-manchester-uniteds-nightmare-is-completely-ridiculous\/","title":{"rendered":"Comparing Ruben Amorim and Mikel Arteta in Manchester United&#8217;s nightmare is completely ridiculous"},"content":{"rendered":"<p> <br \/>\n<\/p>\n<div id=\"article-body\">\n<h2 class=\"LeadText_lead-text__wd_PA __className_df4b63\" data-testid=\"leadtext\" publication=\"mirror\">Manchester United finished 15th last season and are not in Europe this term, but Sir Jim Ratcliffe has talked about giving Ruben Amorim a three-year reprieve, comparing him to Arsenal manager Mikel Arteta, a comparison that is frankly ridiculous.<\/h2>\n<div class=\"Byline_byline-container__K_Owl\" data-testid=\"byline\"><span data-testid=\"byline-content\" class=\"Byline_byline-content-wrapper__Imque\"\/><\/p>\n<div class=\"AuthorBio_bio-container__Oz1w_\" data-testid=\"byline-author-bio\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/i2-prod.mirror.co.uk\/article2206564.ece\/ALTERNATES\/s338a\/john_cross.png\" alt=\"john cross\" class=\"AuthorBio_bio-image-figure__aHRRv\" loading=\"eager\"\/><\/p>\n<p><span class=\"AuthorBio_bio-text__yt_tm\">A football enthusiast who spends much of his life on the highway, watching games all over the country. Passionate about soccer, work and mirrors. I have always believed that the Premier League is the best in the world and that England have a chance. Author of Arsene Wenger: The Inside Story of Arsenal Under Wenger.<\/span><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p class=\"Paragraph_paragraph-text__PVKlh  undefined\" data-tmdatatrack=\"content-unit\" data-tmdatatrack-type=\"paragraph\" publication=\"mirror\">On the other hand, Sir Jim Ratcliffe&#8217;s loyalty must be admired. On the other hand, you have to question his blind faith in giving Ruben Amorim three years to turn things around at Manchester United.<\/p>\n<p class=\"Paragraph_paragraph-text__PVKlh  undefined\" data-tmdatatrack=\"content-unit\" data-tmdatatrack-type=\"paragraph\" publication=\"mirror\">But, to be honest, what was far more puzzling was the comparison of how long it took Sir Alex Ferguson, and even Mikel Arteta, to turn things around.<\/p>\n<p class=\"Paragraph_paragraph-text__PVKlh  undefined\" data-tmdatatrack=\"content-unit\" data-tmdatatrack-type=\"paragraph\" publication=\"mirror\">It took Fergie perhaps five years to get things right at Old Trafford and turn the club into one of England&#8217;s best and one of the most successful in world football. But that was in the 1980s and 1990s. It is foolish to try to compare then and now. We live in completely different times. The title of &#8220;the most profitable club in the world&#8221; has long been a topic of debate.<\/p>\n<div data-testid=\"opinion-teaser-image\" class=\"Teaser_cover-wrapper__VVV7O\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/i2-prod.mirror.co.uk\/article35266809.ece\/ALTERNATES\/s650\/1_Tottenham-Hotspur-v-Manchester-United-UEFA-Europa-League-Final-2025.jpg\" alt=\"\"\/><\/p>\n<p><span data-testid=\"label-text\" class=\"Label_text__tRLWj\">opinion<\/span><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"OpinionTeaser_content-wrapper__TVVPL OpinionTeaser_large__m6_Lk\">\n<div data-testid=\"teaser-author\" class=\"TeaserAuthor_author__h_bIR TeaserAuthor_large__QjYde\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/i2-prod.mirror.co.uk\/article2205697.ece\/ALTERNATES\/s338a\/andy_dunn.png\" alt=\"Author avatar\"\/><span class=\"TeaserAuthor_author-name__YmKL2\">Andy Dunn<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p><span data-testid=\"readmore\" class=\"ReadMore_readmore-prefix__xS44r __className_3bb42b\">read more: <span class=\"ReadMore_readmore-link__eF9pN\">Turki Al Sheikh drops cryptic update on Manchester United takeover, says deal is &#8216;moving forward&#8217;<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"Paragraph_paragraph-text__PVKlh  undefined\" data-tmdatatrack=\"content-unit\" data-tmdatatrack-type=\"paragraph\" publication=\"mirror\">He later admitted in an interview with The Times that he had drawn comparisons between Amorim&#8217;s time at United and Arteta&#8217;s start to his reign at the Emirates. &#8220;If you look at Arteta at Arsenal, he had a terrible first few years,&#8221; he said.<\/p>\n<p class=\"Paragraph_paragraph-text__PVKlh  undefined\" data-tmdatatrack=\"content-unit\" data-tmdatatrack-type=\"paragraph\" publication=\"mirror\">What is overlooked is that Arteta took over in December 2019 and won the FA Cup in 2020, winning a trophy in his first season, which changed things completely.<\/p>\n<p class=\"Paragraph_paragraph-text__PVKlh  undefined\" data-tmdatatrack=\"content-unit\" data-tmdatatrack-type=\"paragraph\" publication=\"mirror\">Now, Amorim squandered that chance in the Europa League final last May, so how can you compare the two? Answer: No. On many levels. And the reality is that even the FA Cup may not have been able to save Arteta next season. But in the Corona era, that was probably the case.<\/p>\n<div data-testid=\"image-group\">\n<div class=\"ImageEmbed_image-embed__0T8WX false\" data-testid=\"imageembed-34808371\" data-tmdatatrack=\"content-unit\" data-tmdatatrack-articleid=\"34808371\" data-tmdatatrack-type=\"image\">\n<div class=\"ImageEmbed_image-container__2AIQm\">\n<figure class=\"Figure_figure__Uce4f\" style=\"--figure-aspect-ratio:1.63\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/i2-prod.mirror.co.uk\/article34808371.ece\/ALTERNATES\/s615b\/0_GettyImages-1263186113.jpg\" alt=\"Mikel Arteta\" loading=\"lazy\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i2-prod.mirror.co.uk\/article34808371.ece\/ALTERNATES\/s458b\/0_GettyImages-1263186113.jpg 458w, https:\/\/i2-prod.mirror.co.uk\/article34808371.ece\/ALTERNATES\/s615b\/0_GettyImages-1263186113.jpg 615w, https:\/\/i2-prod.mirror.co.uk\/article34808371.ece\/ALTERNATES\/s1200e\/0_GettyImages-1263186113.jpg 1200w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 458px) 458px, (max-width: 615px) 615px, 1200px\"\/><\/figure>\n<\/div><figcaption class=\"ImageEmbed_fig-caption__qotOK\"><span class=\"ImageEmbed_camera-style__Qjeby\"><\/span><span class=\"ImageEmbed_caption-title__FSINC\">Mikel Arteta lifts the FA Cup<\/span><span class=\"ImageEmbed_caption-credit__uNiU6\">(Image: Getty Images)<\/span><\/figcaption><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p class=\"Paragraph_paragraph-text__PVKlh  undefined\" data-tmdatatrack=\"content-unit\" data-tmdatatrack-type=\"paragraph\" publication=\"mirror\">Arsenal, like the rest of football, have been playing in front of mostly empty stadiums during the pandemic, which may have helped Arteta when they lost 1-0 at home to Burnley. Their home condition was terrible. they were confused. Results were very poor and they were toying with a relegation scrap. Edu, who was Arsenal&#8217;s director of football at the time, even gave Arteta a formidable vote of confidence.<\/p>\n<p class=\"Paragraph_paragraph-text__PVKlh  undefined\" data-tmdatatrack=\"content-unit\" data-tmdatatrack-type=\"paragraph\" publication=\"mirror\">The following year wasn&#8217;t much better either. But it was better. Still, they went on a rampage and missed out on Champions League qualification. However, Arteta still had the right to the FA Cup.<\/p>\n<p class=\"Paragraph_paragraph-text__PVKlh  undefined\" data-tmdatatrack=\"content-unit\" data-tmdatatrack-type=\"paragraph\" publication=\"mirror\">He was committed to that until the 2022-23 season, when the team is unlikely to be title challengers, with the support of a very supportive board and significant funds spent in the transfer window.<\/p>\n<p class=\"Paragraph_paragraph-text__PVKlh  undefined\" data-tmdatatrack=\"content-unit\" data-tmdatatrack-type=\"paragraph\" publication=\"mirror\">Currently, Arsenal fans are still a bit divided in their opinion of him. In the eyes of some fans, he has to deliver a big trophy this season. The club supports him 100%.<\/p>\n<p class=\"Paragraph_paragraph-text__PVKlh  undefined\" data-tmdatatrack=\"content-unit\" data-tmdatatrack-type=\"paragraph\" publication=\"mirror\">But the point is that comparisons to Arteta don&#8217;t really make sense. United fans have been very supportive of Amorim. They chant his name and persevere. Recently it has been tested.<\/p>\n<div data-testid=\"image-group\">\n<div class=\"ImageEmbed_image-embed__0T8WX false\" data-testid=\"imageembed-36009861\" data-tmdatatrack=\"content-unit\" data-tmdatatrack-articleid=\"36009861\" data-tmdatatrack-type=\"image\">\n<div class=\"ImageEmbed_image-container__2AIQm\">\n<figure class=\"Figure_figure__Uce4f\" style=\"--figure-aspect-ratio:1.5\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/i2-prod.mirror.co.uk\/article36009861.ece\/ALTERNATES\/s615b\/2_GettyImages-2216487515.jpg\" alt=\"Sir Jim Ratcliffe consoles Ruben Amorim after defeat to Spurs in the Europa League final\" loading=\"lazy\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i2-prod.mirror.co.uk\/article36009861.ece\/ALTERNATES\/s458b\/2_GettyImages-2216487515.jpg 458w, https:\/\/i2-prod.mirror.co.uk\/article36009861.ece\/ALTERNATES\/s615b\/2_GettyImages-2216487515.jpg 615w, https:\/\/i2-prod.mirror.co.uk\/article36009861.ece\/ALTERNATES\/s1200e\/2_GettyImages-2216487515.jpg 1200w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 458px) 458px, (max-width: 615px) 615px, 1200px\"\/><\/figure>\n<\/div><figcaption class=\"ImageEmbed_fig-caption__qotOK\"><span class=\"ImageEmbed_camera-style__Qjeby\"><\/span><span class=\"ImageEmbed_caption-title__FSINC\">Sir Jim Ratcliffe consoles Ruben Amorim after defeat to Spurs in the Europa League final<\/span><span class=\"ImageEmbed_caption-credit__uNiU6\">(Image: James Gill &#8211; Danehouse\/Getty Images)<\/span><\/figcaption><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p class=\"Paragraph_paragraph-text__PVKlh  undefined\" data-tmdatatrack=\"content-unit\" data-tmdatatrack-type=\"paragraph\" publication=\"mirror\">Ratcliffe and United also spent big to back him on the market. They acquired an entirely new front line in Benjamin Sesco, Brian Mbeumo and Matheus Cunha to fit into his unbreakable system. It is a kind of expression of faith.<\/p>\n<p class=\"Paragraph_paragraph-text__PVKlh  undefined\" data-tmdatatrack=\"content-unit\" data-tmdatatrack-type=\"paragraph\" publication=\"mirror\">I&#8217;m really impressed. But you can&#8217;t compare like with like. It doesn&#8217;t necessarily add up. One United fan said to me: &#8220;We&#8217;re nowhere near the level of Arsenal or Liverpool of the first five years.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p class=\"Paragraph_paragraph-text__PVKlh  undefined\" data-tmdatatrack=\"content-unit\" data-tmdatatrack-type=\"paragraph\" publication=\"mirror\">Amorim, like Arteta, is young and inexperienced but lacks flexibility. He talks a lot, but the players clearly don&#8217;t understand or understand his tactics and vision.<\/p>\n<p class=\"Paragraph_paragraph-text__PVKlh  undefined\" data-tmdatatrack=\"content-unit\" data-tmdatatrack-type=\"paragraph\" publication=\"mirror\">United are also a monster of a football club. No one can endure this melodrama for three years.<\/p>\n<p class=\"Paragraph_paragraph-text__PVKlh  undefined\" data-tmdatatrack=\"content-unit\" data-tmdatatrack-type=\"paragraph\" publication=\"mirror\">I really thought United would be fighting for the top four this season. They spent a lot of money and had some obvious flaws (midfield to start with), but they&#8217;re a decent team.<\/p>\n<p class=\"Paragraph_paragraph-text__PVKlh  undefined\" data-tmdatatrack=\"content-unit\" data-tmdatatrack-type=\"paragraph\" publication=\"mirror\">However, they significantly underperform. I don&#8217;t know much about Amorim anymore. 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